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I'll Contribute to Hackett as an Independent

by plukasiak, Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 10:40:44 AM EST

Here's a pledge of $100 if Paul Hackett runs for the US Senate in Ohio as an independent. Personally, I think he has a shot, because if the people of Ohio are as sick of machine/DC Beltway politicians as I am, Hackett wins in a walk.

Poll

Votes: 68
Results : Vote Link : Polls

Tags: Hackett, Brown (all tags)

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Re: I'll Contribute to Hackett as an Independent (3.00 / 2)

Let me answer your poll question in more depth.

You are either a Republican or a fool to draft Hackett to run as an independent. No Democrat should have anything to do with such a movement.

I suspect Paul Hackett will feel the same way. Although he feels wronged he is a loyal person at heart and won't put his own personal ambition over the good of the people of Ohio. Running Paul Hackett as an independent will do nothing but ensure Mike DeWine, Republican, is elected Senator for Ohio.

by Curt Matlock on Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 11:10:48 AM EST

Re: I'll Contribute to Hackett as an Independent (2.00 / 1)

Then we take your response as a NO.

Maybe you mean no INSIDE DEM?

I"m in!

by LindainCincinnati on Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 11:20:30 AM EST
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Re: I'll Contribute to Hackett as an Independent (3.00 / 2)

I'm hardly an inside Dem. But I want to see a progressive elected Senator in Ohio. I'd have been very happy to see that be Paul Hackett. But it's not gonna happen. Running Hackett as an independent just ensures DeWine will win. Last I checked DeWine's a Republican Conservative so if you don't mind I'm going to keep telling Hackett supporters who want to pull a Nader that they are making a big mistake.

by Curt Matlock on Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 11:37:14 AM EST
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Re: I'll Contribute to Hackett as an Independent (2.00 / 1)

You can keep on keepin on.

And so will I.

I do not support dirty politics.

by LindainCincinnati on Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 12:02:36 PM EST
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Then get out of politics. (2.00 / 2)

This is how the game is played.

There are other pasttimes that won't so easily offend your delicate sensibilities.

by Teaser on Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 12:43:31 PM EST
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Re: Then get out of politics. (none / 0)

This is how the game is played.

Then maybe it's time to change the rules.

by Skjellifetti on Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 05:54:25 PM EST
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Re: I'll Contribute to Hackett as an Independent (none / 0)

Brown wouldn't even be in this if not for what Hackett did in his congressional run. Hell, the dopes in DC COMPLETELY IGNORED him, considering such a run to be a fools errand.

After his narrow defeat they have apparently changed their tune. Hell yeah, I'll put up $200 of my own hard-earned money if Hackett decides too run as an indy.

by bobbyk on Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 12:35:55 PM EST
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Re: I'll Contribute to Hackett as an Independent (none / 0)

So you think that because Sherrod Brown changed his mind about completely uprooting his life to fufill a public service, means that the next Senator from Ohio should be a Republican? The price of your peculiar brand of morality is pretty high.

by JCarlFinn5 on Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 06:01:57 PM EST
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How funny, they must still fear Paul (none / 0)

They are still coming out with their talking points.

THis IS for the People of Ohio and this country. Paul Hackett is the only candidate that can beat DeWine.

I was surprised Sherrod didn't panic when DeWine's numbers started on an upward tic and pull back out.

Someone actually made a statement that they think the HAckett supporters and netroots are now Browns. That's equally funny. I don't reward bad behavior.

As I said in another post. I promise my big bucks if Paul enters as an Inde.

And save "for the good of the party". Funny how you all just use that when you want us to just fall in line regardless of what you do.

by LindainCincinnati on Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 11:26:05 AM EST

Oh, please (3.00 / 1)

And save "for the good of the party". Funny how you all just use that when you want us to just fall in line regardless of what you do.

I didn't have a dog in this fight.

You know, this is the really hard reality of politics. Sometimes you win, sometimes you get your teeth kicked in. Regardless of which happens to you when, the world of politics will respect you when you pick yourself up and implement lessons learned for the next go around. You'll get no respect for whining and threatening to take your marbles elsewhere. Until enough righteous activists learn that lesson we'll remain on the outside looking in.

He withdrew.

Take your energy and focus it on someone else you can support running in another race somewhere - and then win. Take your righteous indignation and beat the crap out of some hapless republican son of a bitch running for office. If you do that then the "establishment" will truly respect you, and even fear you. Otherwise, you're just another in a long line of dilettantes making a little noise who will eventually go away.

That's how you make waves.

543,895 votes

by Michael Bersin on Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 01:27:29 PM EST
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Re: Oh, please (none / 0)

Yourself.

Why don't you take your own advice?

Your righteous indignation that is a forever character by you folks. So shallow are you.

Let me guess, you're an ol pro at these. Is that why the Dem's keep losing?

by LindainCincinnati on Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 02:42:25 PM EST
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Re: Oh, please (none / 0)

Learn to do some research. I win some and I lose some.

543,895 votes

by Michael Bersin on Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 03:39:49 PM EST
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Re: I'll Contribute to Hackett as an Independent (3.00 / 1)

We ran an independent in 2000, how did that work out. Eight years of Bush.

You would think this much hell would teach some a lesson. Guess not.

I like Hackett, I like Sherrod Brown. I just want Dewine Degone. Get IT.

Or maybe Rahm Emanual is really working for the Republicans, yeah, that's the ticket. I'll take Rahm's idea over the whining left any day.

Let us know when the crying jag is over and we can get back to taking back the house and senate.

by skeeters on Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 02:00:57 PM EST

Your crying jag (none / 0)

I don't know. How long does it take you to stop crying Oh Wo Is Me. It sounds like you know where you want to be. Why don't you move on over.

Who did you want to take the White HOuse from, you got it!

Oh, poor baby don't like calling ones true colors.

Paul Hackett was the one who garnered the enthusiasm and support, with him gone, the race has been lost, by dirty games. And if you think that's ok, say that nice and loud to his Congressional supporters, something tells me that wouldn't feel very good about that truth.

Paul Hackett 41.9 %
DeWine 35%

Doing a Heck of a
job Brownie 41.3%
DeWine 37%

Uh, oh, what's this? Paul Hackett closes the gap and Sherrod's been in office how many years?

If you don't like our true support for Paul Hackett, get off this diary.

by LindainCincinnati on Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 02:54:20 PM EST
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Re: I'll Contribute to Hackett as an Independent (none / 0)

I just called Hackett's campaign office and expressed my sadness at his withdrawal from the race. The person who answered the phone said they've had hundreds of calls. Although, I would like Hackett to run for Senate, he cannot do it as an Independent in Ohio. Remember, Blackwell counts the votes and to win, we have to win BIG. We cannot take one vote away from any Democrat because the Republicans will win.

by Marie Smith on Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 02:33:34 PM EST

Re: I'll Contribute to Hackett as an Independent (none / 0)

Wow, I don't know, but it looks like some other supporters freeped our Poll.

by LindainCincinnati on Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 02:59:05 PM EST

Re: I'll Contribute to Hackett as an Independent (none / 0)

It is very sad that Hackett was forced out by the establishment. Let's hope he stays active maybe run for another statewide office. Than position himself in 2010 for a Gov. run (Personally i think Strickland is going to lose but i hope not.)

Running the Davis, Nelson Klein team in Florida.

by Liberal on Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 04:22:46 PM EST

Re: I'll Contribute to Hackett as an Independent (none / 0)

Here is how you can. A PAC has already been formed to encourage and support Hackett to run as an independent.

This was posted at Kos

Draft Paul Hackett to run for Senate as an Independent

Draft Paul Hackett to run for Senate as an Independent.

When Democrats fight Republicans, Democrats win.

That's what Paul Hackett brought to the Senate race in Ohio - real fight for a change. A real chance to give average Ohioans a voice in our party.

DRAFT HACKETT - www.hackpac.com

When Democrats fight Democrats, we all lose.

Unfortunately, establishment Democrats in Ohio decided to fight Paul Hackett. We can't let them win.

Send a message to the greedy Democrats who turned on Paul Hackett.

Join DRAFT HACKETT today!

Every dollar you donate will be used to Draft Hackett as an Independent voice for the U.S. Senate in Ohio.

DRAFT HACKETT - www.hackpac.com

And if Paul says no, we'll use your support to reform the Democratic Party in Ohio, one voter at a time.

by columbusprogressive on Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 05:17:31 PM EST

Re: I'll Contribute to Hackett as an Independent (3.00 / 1)

"When Democrats fight Democrats, we all lose."

I find that statement incredibly ironic, since those who want to draft Hackett as an independent are essentially urging just that: Democrats fighting Democrats.

And, if Hackett runs as an independent, he'll invariably split the liberal vote between himself and Brown. Though DeWine is vulnerable, he is still an incumbent, and he has the backing of both the national GOP machine and the Ohio GOP machine. Beating him, despite all of his corruption and his partisanship, will still be difficult.

What it comes down to is, are we going to try to replace a corrupt Republican Senator with a progressive Democrat, or are we going to fall victim to our hero-worship of Paul Hackett, split the vote between him and Brown, and ensure DeWine keeps his seat for the next six years? Do we really want to put a top-tier Senate race in jeopardy to prove a point?

"Unfortunately, establishment Democrats in Ohio decided to fight Paul Hackett. We can't let them win. "

"Send a message to the greedy Democrats who turned on Paul Hackett. "

These statements show that you don't care about winning this race, you don't care about Mike DeWine or corruption or the future of Ohio; all you care about is getting back at those people who took down your hero. Paul Hackett is an impressive man who has a lot of potential to go far in politics, but he's not worth losing a Senate seat over.

And I know people will say to me that it's more than a Senate seat, it's about the future of the Democratic party. Well, we're all trying to change the Democratic party, and the process is unfortunately and painfully slow. I would like to see the Democratic party evolve to where we, the netroots, want it to be as soon as possible. For now, though, the party establishment is still in power, and sometimes we're going to have to go along with the decisions they make.

I'm not happy that Hackett dropped out, but running as an independent is doing nothing but being spiteful and vindictive. It's not going to change anything; if anything, it will be a sad, unpleasant mistake, liks that made by Ralph Nader and all of his supporters in 2000.

by Neimad on Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 05:57:14 PM EST
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Hackett for Independent (none / 0)

I second that motion. Unfortunately, Hackett has made it clear he will not seek office in the near future.

by optimusprime on Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 06:34:28 PM EST
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